If one looks at the SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION block it is evident that wage growth is needed to sustain the SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION trust and the workers of AMERICA

What good are workers who live in their cars or under bridges???

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Removing the minimum wage will free up the access to work for those truly in need. Providing longevity raises, and educational/training bonuses provides a non-detrrimental rise in earnings. Raising the base pay for the beginner workforce pushes all wages higher and with that excellerates inflation and causes "real" earnings to be depleated.

This is new SPIN on the SADISTIC NE-CON EVANGELICAL ACTIVISTS Hate-o-nomics . Grover Norquist must be back at work.

THIS PROPOSAL PORTENDS THE CREATION OF A SLAVE LABOR UNDER CLASS !!!

If this concept is adopted the " Guest Worker " program will fit right in where the AMERICAN middle class once stood. ( all the union trades and production workers will be let go ) ⁽¹⁾⁽²⁾ as they are doing in New Orleans right now !!!

Let us see the cite.

Looks like you are out of " talking points " you have cited one instance of rather strange congressional budgetary allocations. It's a good point that a good tort law firm should explore. The BUSH administration's contributions to the deaths of over 800 AMERICANS has been documented by numerous sources ^{(1) (2)(3)(4)(5)(6) (7)}

There is something that I find rather interesting a declaration of emergency issued by BUSH ? If that had been in place FEMA should have had absolute power to command and control all of the emergency response to Katrina. That is no negotiations just orders. Because the federal government would have taken "jurisdictional authority" in the mater. Under " joint and severable liability" and the concept of "contributory negligence " The BUSH administration has a 60% to 75% of the liability due to bringing levee repairs to a snails pace by budget cuts to SELA. Yet FEMA all of a sudden can't execute a evacuation plan after the REX 84 training program ???? There is some thing strange going on here. Was this an effort to clean out the Democrats ^{(8)(9)(10)(11)(12)(13)(14)(15)(16)} Or may be Brown is the dumbest of the dumb. Or may be he was told to sand bag the response just a bit and things got out of hand ??? Give the Hate-o-nomics taught by the likes of Cato/Heritage , Grover Norquist Karl Rove and Delay. Given the venomous teachings of Pat Robertson and Franklyn Graham You have to wonder did he or didn't he ????

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You know, cactusrose, I really and truly don't wish them any bad. Their ignorance and close-mindedness is its own punishment. If, in the scenario they themselves envision, they must stand in judgement before their God, I have a hunch that they're in for a rude and ugly surprise. Their acts are not Christian acts. Their self-delusion is clear to anyone paying even the most casual attention.

Your statement is so true. This is why George Walker Bush has such a credibility problem in the " MUSLIM " world. The vast majority of MUSLIMS see BUSH for what he is $ DOLLARS $ not a christen. BUSH's GOD is the $ DOLLARS $ clear and simple and every body knows this.

The PROJECTED short fall is placed at _1.86% first we will need a prolonged period of 1.8% GDP growth .

This is where the SADISTIC NE-CON EVANGELICAL ACTIVISTS economic hate policy breaks down. There are 37 MILLION plus " economic dead beats " . These people have no disposable income. They may go for a day with no food just to pay the light bill. They spend lots of time at the local food bank. Going to work or school hungry is a normal part of the monthly cycle. To some this life style is chosen by the victims of poverty, to some all these 37 MILLION folks are lazy and don't want to work. These are the (Values) of the (The F.O.G. Elite) . A collection of people who never have known a day when there was not more than enough money to buy what ever was needed or wanted. The truth is the F.O.G. ( FRIENDS OF GEORGE ) is forcing wages down and the poverty rate up to enhance the profits ( short term ) of the (The F.O.G. Elite) . This Cato/Heritage conceived policy is eroding the consumer base depicted here.

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  "Lets reduce the number of customers who can afford to buy our product so we can sell more product to fewer people" this is The Cato/Heritage logic.

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Today, the reality of is at 13% and risiing, not due to LOW salaries for the beginner workforce, but due to the lack of jobs and inflation. The governmental propoganda statements you have quoted have nothing to do with the real world we live in.

Census Data Poverty

Now by age group

Note that the poverty rate is on the rise, that the number of people in poverty has risen every year since 2000. If you have purchased a gallon of gas lately you may have noticed that the price is at $2.50 plus per gal. . There has not been a increase in the national minimum wage since 2000. are you saying that more money will make the poor poorer ? This is a tired old talking point of the Grover Norquist Cato/Heritageilk which has been proven false in years gone by. Do you remember the 70's and 80's. Where can you rent a apartment on $5.50/hr ? It will take at least 2.5 incomes to support a place to live in the contiguous 48 ( excluding CA ).

I can understand the problems associated with trying to defend the indefensible George Walker Bush's decision to fund his 2001 Tax Cut ⁽¹⁾ with cuts to the SELA flood control programs in New Orleans. The influence of Grover Norquist and his pupils Delay , Sen Bill Frist and Hastert are smeared all over this decision. ^{(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)(9)}

As I have said facts citeable facts you posted a interesting fact I responded with cites and facts and my opinion. Is this what happens when you are loosing. Or feel you are lost ?

• Another George Walker Bush insult to the concept of life in this galaxy

The Governator Shot Down In Flames

• Tim won in Virginia the Democrat won !!!!

  Lets review some recent FBI investigations in this area

  • NAACP Faces IRS Investigation

    By Mike Allen

    Washington Post Staff Writer

    Friday, October 29, 2004; Page A08

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A7433-2004Oct28?language=printer

    The Internal Revenue Service has threatened to revoke the NAACP's tax-exempt status because the civil rights group's chairman, Julian Bond, "condemned the administration policies of George W. Bush" during a speech this summer, according to documents the group provided yesterday.

  George Walker Bush would not try to WOO THE NAACP to his side so he sent the FBI to investigate the organization. Just a little scare to shut the mouths of the hierarchy

  • stop and think what about a catholic priest who repeats the " official Papal doctrine on contraception, if he talks about Planed Parenthood and mentions a Supreme Court decision is this political speech? Or is this disseminating the Doctrine. Last I heard the catholic church was fundamentally opposed to war ( organized murder ).

    May be the 700 club should have its tax exempt status pulled. If the preacher aspouses putting out a hit on a PRESIDENT of another country, is that not political speech? Sounds like a violation of " equal protection " to me.

    Rove turn tis cr@p off

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    I wish I knew, we will have to wait and see. I do like John McCain. I know he is a Repub. But I like him anyway he seems honest.

    • I am a DEMOCRAT, John McCain has one character flaw_.. He has character_.. (The F.O.G. Elite) and the likes of Grover Norquist, Ralph Reed and the Cato/Heritage will not be giving McCain orders. They may have input but he will make up his own mind. To them McCain is a "loose cannon" he has a grain and he will use it.

      You might want to consider the current position of the United States of America with respect to child poverty.

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        Data from IDEAS at repec@repec.org

        Full report at http://www.unicef-icdc.org/publications/pdf/repcard6e.pdf

      This is one of the places where poverty begins at birth. To the most casual observer there are a few facts that are self evident. Poor people spend most all of their income on food shelter and clothing first last and only. There is no savings or discretionary income. These people are a drag on this economy. Why do you want to create more of them ? If the minimum wage is eliminated their numbers will grow, our position in the listing above will drop. Consumer spending will take a nose dive and George Walker Bush's 1.8% annual GDP growth will become a reality.

      The minimum wage needs to be increased so the poor can keep pace with inflation continue to feed them selves. Wage growth has not kept pace with price increases.

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      Note wages are flat line for the " median " wage earner. Where do you think the " minimum wage " earner is to day ? The recent increase in energy costs have started making the circuit through the economy. And the " middle class " is being squeezed down the social economic scale as a result the poor are in dire straights ( can't pay rent, can't run a car ) Food will soon become a luxury item. Do you really want to destroy the purchasing power of the middle and lower classes of the AMERICAN economy. This is the approx. size of the BOOMERS

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      Do you really want to destroy this ?

      We Need More Customers With More MONEY !

      I put the question to you why is the Delay controlled House and the Sen Bill Frist controlled Senate are willing to fund junk projects and not flood control / SELA ?

      • Money Flowed to Questionable Projects

        State Leads in Army Corps Spending, but Millions Had Nothing to Do With Floods

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462.html

        By Michael Grunwald Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, September 8, 2005; Page A01

        Before Hurricane Katrina breached a levee on the New Orleans Industrial Canal, the Army Corps of Engineers had already launched a $748 million construction project at that very location. But the project had nothing to do with flood control. The Corps was building a huge new lock for the canal, an effort to accommodate steadily increasing barge traffic.

      What has every body gone mad??? Looks like BUSH fit right in to the insanity with his stupid budget cutting.

      One problem why did George Walker Bush cut SELA funding in 2001 ? Looks like it was time to send in the Inspector General and the FBI to clean house ! The levees were and are more important than possible scum bag politicians ! BUSH still can't hide what he contributed to the Katrina mess. The actions of the half wit legislators and the George Walker Bush administration joined to kill over 800 AMERICANS. There was a tax increase passed to keep one of the levee projects going in spite of the federal budget cuts. BUSH lacked the vision and moral values needed to deal with local corruption. Explain why BUSH continued to cut the SELA funding, 2001, 2002. 2003. 2004.

      Problems with the language ???? BUSH controlled 75% plus of the reasons found to date for the levee failures with his budgetary allocations. BUSH cut the funds despite being warned that there were serious problems to be fixed. George Walker Bush made the call there for he is responsible for his actions. It is time to grow up and face the results of his decisions.

      This is how the George Walker Bush administration handles sermons of the clergy that descent from the BUSH war doctrine.

      • Antiwar Sermon Brings IRS Warning

        All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena risks losing its tax-exempt status because of a former rector's remarks in 2004

      • By Patricia Ward Biederman and Jason Felch, Times Staff Writers

        http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-me-allsaints7nov07,1,597130.story?track=mostemailedlink&coll=la-mininav-business&ctrack=1&cset=true

        The Internal Revenue Service has warned one of Southern California's largest and most liberal churches that it is at risk of losing its tax-exempt status because of an antiwar sermon two days before the 2004 presidential election.

        Rector J. Edwin Bacon of All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena told many congregants during morning services Sunday that a guest sermon by the church's former rector, the Rev. George F. Regas, on Oct. 31, 2004, had prompted a letter from the IRS_

      I wonder if the same rule applies to the evangelical right ? Is this the Karl Rove sure fire method of religious speech control.

      The assessed value of a home stead is usually lower than the market value of the property. If Dick Cheney's house has a assessed value that is lower than " like " properties in the area one would wonder did Dick Cheney call Jeb Bush and say "I need a tax break can you help? "

      Each time a property changes hands the " mill rate " X ( " assessed value" _ " exempt value " ) is computed. The assessed value should be rising ( as property values rise ) the only way " legally " to change the assessed value is a " petition " to the assessor to review his assessment. If the name Dick Cheney is on the petition it may carry a little more weight in a state like Florida, Jeb Bush country.

      The George Walker Bush administration requires for it's functional existence a certin amount of AADD, both naturally occurring and induced by media manipulation. How else can the not yet indicted "OFFICIAL A" from the Lewis Scooter Libby indictment continue to work in the White House. Why does he still have his security clearance ? BUSH says "let's move on" and not notice this apparent double standard when it comes to the pulling of security clearances. This is a example of media induced AADD. "Let's move along and don't worry about that". Is the response. TREASON is still a capital offence.